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I'm not endorsing the content
May 31, 2014,13:04 PM
Just noting that at times inappropriate posts from eccentrics were a feature of the past.
Not my main memory of the past, and not why I come here, but eccentricity and drama have always been a feature of this place. Not endorsing, just noting.
Personally, I worry for the original poster given his recent posting history.
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The TRUTH? This passion of pursuit is good for many things.
By: bernard cheong : May 28th, 2014-02:08
The "TRUTH" is that some, and on occasion myself, would define truth as "relative to" or "depends on". Absolute truths? These are few, and found mainly among mathematics and philosophies that have 100% need of mathematics. In medicine, for the last 2 cent...
I am curious Bernard. in USD what is the average Singapore income.....
By: Ronald Held : May 29th, 2014-05:16
I ask this because a 6 figure USD watch seems to be beyond almost all of the world's population assuming it is disposable income. With respect I do not see enough appeal in the G-F watches to even think of laying out that amount of money. I certainly have...
Another great read Doc
By: Nicko16 : May 28th, 2014-07:01
The high price of cars in Singapore is a necessity due to land restrictions. Always given me a chuckle when you compare the price of a car say in Aus to Sg. After watching many videos, (recent one from DeBethune was awesome) on how these pieces are made w...
Thank you for brightening my day.
By: bernard cheong : May 28th, 2014-23:47
I was VERY worried that I made a statement online that can be misunderstood. Telling the truth is my prime belief.....and I was concerned how many times I failed. It was always to do good. BUT..still, I was avoiding trouble. COURAGE is not my forte.
You have a highly visible complex
By: Spellbound : May 29th, 2014-00:33
Respectfully Dr. Cheong, It is like you were born with a chip on your shoulder. And you are obsessed with money. Quite depressing really. What makes me feel uncomfortable reading your posts is your continual assertion of how poor you are, and yet you boug...
Oh dear. I must respond to you first. I do not lie..period.
By: bernard cheong : May 28th, 2014-18:31
I never plan, set out to, or connive etc. What I wrote was to share how advertising and even myself....so as to avoid being a hypocrite. My calling card recently changed my profession to Dr Bernard Cheong Hypocrite It was and is meant to be a joke. Anyway...
A suggestion, Bernard: would you consider . . .
By: Dr No : May 29th, 2014-00:53
. . . forwarding text via pm to myself before posting? Not for editing - that would clearly be unacceptable. Just feedback . . . to give you a sense of how others will perceive your intended message. I have affection for you as a former colleague, and sim...
Surething. I have no big issue with bad responses.
By: bernard cheong : May 29th, 2014-01:02
BUT..I would/try to always be honest. Which is why I write off the cuff without thinking twice. I like criticism, it betters me, helps OPEN my eyes. And I value ALL remarks, including dislikes, as it helps me understand. I am not here to get famous or ear...
Psychobabble or not...
By: Brandon Skinner : May 31st, 2014-00:29
BC's post are thoroughly entertaining and should not be dumbed-down based on what you feel is germaine to the forum. Mr. Cheong's posts is what you get when Confucianism (sometimes for me it feels like confused-ism) crashes a WatchAnish Gruebel GTG. For t...
The issues driving this discussion . . .
By: Dr No : May 31st, 2014-01:49
. . .have already been elaborated upon, so there's no need to reiterate. The pertinent point is that Bernard understands the unease we've endured due to his casual disregard for the traditions and culture of this forum. A recommendation for advanced revie...
You will greatly enjoy...
By: pplater : May 31st, 2014-13:30
...Bernard's own watch blog. That way you can have all of the excitement (and brand endorsement) without any of the controversy. Everyone's a winner! Cheers, pplater.
Winning!
By: Brandon Skinner : May 31st, 2014-18:51
Thanks, didn't know it existed... until now!
+1 [nt]
By: Arie - Mr Orange : May 29th, 2014-04:36
So which way is it? Are you suggesting that I get my eyes checked?
By: mkt33 : May 29th, 2014-04:37
So when you write: "Have I lied in the past? YES. Will I lie? YES. Not by design, but if cornered. Hold on....I would always try 90% not to lie" and now " I do not lie...period" Which one of these three comments should I believe? NONE. Bernard, sorry, you...
About paid opinions. I am the least popular of writers because I am blunt.
By: bernard cheong : May 28th, 2014-18:39
If I had to make a living from writing, I would be VERY poor. When I post anything or write in print. I am almost brutal. Almost rude. BUT...these days, I avoid brands that I can't say good things. I may be wrong, but I do that. I also don't review watche...
Is this true or is this another 1/2 lie
By: mkt33 : May 29th, 2014-08:31
Bernard, here on this thread, you have an opportunity once and for all to put to end all doubt. Respond here in writing for all members to see, for all members to reference in the future. Are you saying that you have never received payments of any materia...
Ouch Mike, mr B Cheong might not be the most likeable read...
By: moc : May 29th, 2014-09:25
and definitely he has the power to pull those strings( especially by putting a price tag in any other sentence,totally irritating....) but , 1) I believe he is getting a lot of pleasure from harsh criticism,or at least it seems so ,there is too much effor...
Hear you loud and clear Mike...
By: moc : May 29th, 2014-10:04
And I agree with your analysis . I hope that is not the case,I also feel many here refrain from comments to Mr BC posts just not to give the satisfaction of an answer.....shame to come to this point really. Mo
This is "watch therapy" at its most intense.
By: mkvc : May 29th, 2014-21:44
I'm not saying these posts are in my preferred style, but I don't see what harm Bernard is doing. Even for his less-experienced readers, he does not appear to be shilling or engaging in any other troublesome market behavior. Furthermore, it is hard to ima...
Normally, one wouldn't take kindly to a guest bringing a piñata . . .
By: Dr No : May 30th, 2014-16:05
. . . to a tea ceremony. The analogy may be crude, but that's the essence of our concern. The harm is of two types: first, by running contrary to forum ideals and expectations, namely open discussion of price, value, and asset appreciation, and second, by...
+1
By: Brandon Skinner : May 31st, 2014-00:34
agreed.
I think contrary and the silence is deafing
By: mkt33 : May 31st, 2014-08:11
"Even for his less experienced readers, he does not appear to be shilling or engaging in any other troublesome market behavior" For a long time, I have asked Bernard to be transparent and disclose his conflicts of interests. There is no problem with him r...
Wow.
By: senort75 : May 29th, 2014-05:22
It's just the internets, guys. Don't take Bernard's posting so seriously. He enjoys his watches, the finer things in life and gets to show us watches that he owns, that we'd never see in the real world. Bernard may not be here to amuse us, but he is enjoy...
+1 (nt)
By: cmclee : May 29th, 2014-06:49
nt
We are PuristS for a reason...
By: mkt33 : May 29th, 2014-08:18
This post is a complete contradiction to everything we, as a community, should strive for. The world is IMPERFECT but PuristS strive to find perfection...not subvert it. So yes, this is serious because it hits right at the core of the values of this group...
Perfect
By: SALMANPK : May 29th, 2014-09:22
Perfection and the Perfect System, your Post reminded me of this S
Mike and I are both holdovers . . .
By: Dr No : May 29th, 2014-12:58
. . . from The Purists, Mark. Perhaps we're anachronisms . . . out of place and time, since this is now 'just the internet'. Speaking for myself, I feel that standards of behavior still matter. Discussing price and price appreciation, watches as investmen...
LOL Art. Just like Gunny Highway...
By: MichaelC : May 29th, 2014-14:05
I assume you have seen and know Heartbreak Ridge. I love that scene in the beginning when he meets his new superior officer, something similar to: "you are an anachronism Gunny Highway. You should be put in a glass jar that says 'break only in event of wa...
ok
By: Arie - Mr Orange : May 30th, 2014-16:06
I was just wondering.... But if that guy is a grown-up doctor, I'm sure he must be able to judge for himself? Cheers, over & out
He is, like anyone else, entitled to express his thoughts . . .
By: Dr No : May 30th, 2014-16:39
. . . and listen only to his own counsel. He cannot, though, escape the consequences. His accumulated transgressions were serious enough to merit the response of two moderators. In the absence of my offer, what would you have us do? Ban him? Or ignore the...
Big enough...
By: andrewluff : May 30th, 2014-13:42
For him or his ego Michael ;) Cheers Andrew
on the Big Lie
By: amerix : May 29th, 2014-08:00
"What you say doesn't have to be true, but if you speak it LOUD enough and OFTEN enough people will come to believe it." (attributed to Dr. Joseph Goebbels, Hitler's Propaganda Minister).. That way you gain followers, Just look around. amerix
Bernard, your posts are like a firework burst of ideas...
By: Richard C : May 29th, 2014-18:57
A bit unsettlingly manic, but dazzling and, I believe, total honest (truth is often overated in my opinion). Anyway, I appreciate the insights you bring, not to mention the dazzling watches. I look forward to your next post.
Art, Mike, Mod team...
By: pplater : May 30th, 2014-15:03
When will you 'call' this stuff? When is enough enough? Optimistically, Cheers, pplater.
This post is the capping point
By: mkt33 : May 31st, 2014-08:16
For a long time, I have held back and bit my lip out of respect for Bernard. I'd prefer to let his posts stand and not censor. But respect is a two way street. He must post in the "PuristS spirit" (which Art does a much better job expressing than I ever w...
Posts like this are a Purists tradition
By: Moses : May 31st, 2014-05:47
I fondly remember similar posts by other Purists personalities. Maniacs you might say. One in particular. Who shall remain nameless. Back before PPro. The good old days. At least there weren't any disturbing pictures this time.
I believe that'll be
By: Ares501 - Mr Green : May 31st, 2014-06:55
to much to ask for these pictures :) Best Damjan
No Moses, you are wrong
By: mkt33 : May 31st, 2014-07:58
You have been on these forums for a long long time. When have you ever read a post like this "in the good old days"? A post offering personal opinions in which the author claims that lying for a purpose is OK... If all you remember about the "good old day...
I'm not endorsing the content
By: Moses : May 31st, 2014-13:04
Just noting that at times inappropriate posts from eccentrics were a feature of the past. Not my main memory of the past, and not why I come here, but eccentricity and drama have always been a feature of this place. Not endorsing, just noting. Personally,...
Thank you for the clarification
By: mkt33 : May 31st, 2014-15:42
And I am sorry if I "jumped" on you for your comments. By the title of your post I wrongly inferred that you thought these types of posts should be/remain in the PuristSPro tradition. Best, Mike
Conduct unbecoming a Purist
By: dxboon : May 31st, 2014-09:53
Maybe it is helpful to revisit the site terms each of us agrees to when we make an account to engage in discussion on these forums. Discussion Board Code of Conduct Welcome to discussion boards, a virtual community where we try live up to The PuristS ph...
It's pretty easy...
By: dxboon : May 31st, 2014-16:41
...to just set up your account, and gloss over this unfortunately. Cheers, Daos
Ronald, what do you think?
By: mkt33 : May 31st, 2014-16:01
I urge you to read the PuristS code of conduct which Daos has kindly reposted above. Please read the responses to Bernard's post. You decide for yourself whether or not you think this post is acceptable. If Bernard wishes to focus only on watches, follow ...
May I ask why?
By: mkt33 : May 31st, 2014-18:47
Do you think there will be a consensus from "the counsel of elders"? Isn't Bernard himself an elder? Aren't you an "elder"...by mentioning that you are a holdover from "thePuristS" are you not assuming this role? My point is, there will never be a consens...
For me personally...
By: dxboon : May 31st, 2014-16:48
...it's borderline on its face, but there is a disturbing undercurrent, and it is certainly not spiritually consistent with the site (all the discussion of price points is really pushing it IMO). Daos
Honesty, truth and hopefully stimulation of thought
By: bernard cheong : June 1st, 2014-05:03
My answers/replies are spontaneous. (1) ALL WATCH RELATED (even 0.1%), 100% of what I posted here within the pages of the forum are/were then accurate and truthful. If otherwise, it was due to scientific revelations or industry released info which made th...
The loud and the soft
By: amerix : June 1st, 2014-07:27
What you are giving me is a severe case of tinnitus - a roaring in the ears - just from READING your posts, which make excessive use of capital letters to drive home your points; on the Internet this is known as "shouting" and frowned upon as a breach of ...