Very good reminder Pplater. Steven Phillips has passed away

Sep 09, 2011,23:21 PM
 


I remember reading about it on Timezone years ago, during my infancy years of collecting. Will do some detective work later, at some cafe now with too many eye candies distracting me.

Best,

Horo

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 By: pplater : September 9th, 2011-22:41
The following article appeared in the December 2002 edition of the U.S. "Professional Jewellers' Magazine" (you probably all saw it there). Does anyone know whether the patent described in the article ever found application in a wristwatch? December 12, 2...

Sounds like a wrist Atmos? (nt) [nt]

 
 By: Moses : September 9th, 2011-23:10
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Very good reminder Pplater. Steven Phillips has passed away

 
 By: Hororgasm : September 9th, 2011-23:21
I remember reading about it on Timezone years ago, during my infancy years of collecting. Will do some detective work later, at some cafe now with too many eye candies distracting me. Best, Horo

I hope it's a pool side cafe you're in ...

 
 By: TdotBean : September 10th, 2011-04:31
I'm ... heheh ...and the view is great Regards Tyler...

Sadly no, but thanks for the picture mate :)-

 
 By: Hororgasm : September 10th, 2011-12:34
Best, Horo

Lovely proportions [nt]

 
 By: ArthurSG : September 11th, 2011-21:34
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Mr. Phillips made a few

 
 By: ei8htohms : September 10th, 2011-04:48
Unfortunately he passed away in March of 2004 before serializing them to my knowledge. No clue what happened to the patent or if anyone else may be working on the technology at this point. Would be a good question for Curtis at Tempered-Online I think. _j...

Do you happen to know, John...

 
 By: pplater : September 10th, 2011-09:42
...whether the pieces he managed to produce lived up to the promise? Are there Phillips watches 'out there' that have continued to run, unwound, since their manufacture? We know the theory is sound (vide Atmos) but was it successfully applied in its more ...

I really have no idea

 
 By: ei8htohms : September 10th, 2011-11:45
I'm skeptical about horological advancements of this magnitude by nature (especially when purported to have been achieved by a solitary craftsman rather than the R & D team of a major manufacturer) but I can't even guess as to how well it did or did not p...

If you look at the size of an Atmos...

 
 By: BDLJ : September 11th, 2011-16:55
...and compare it to a wristwatch...it just doesn't scale. The volume of the expansion chamber of the Atmos is of order of magnitude larger than space required in a wristwatch, uses chloroethane and a very low friction mechanism.... Also consider how much...

some pictures of the watch

 
 By: JMan : September 10th, 2011-11:46
Here is an article with some photos that I found in my search. www.professionaljeweler.com J.

Interesting. I wonder what sort of…

 
 By: grumio : September 10th, 2011-23:54
escapement he was using. If you think about a conventional swiss lever escapement watch, and how much energy you need to 'feed into it' by winding the crown to get another 24hr hours of run time, and then think that if this mechanism is using the same lev...

Did you get the chance...

 
 By: pplater : September 11th, 2011-00:04
...to click on the link kindly provided by 'JMan' in his post (above)? It provides some further insight, and shows a prototype watch. Your points about the tricks of the Atmos are very good observations, however, and the suggestion of a 'perpetual power' ...

Thanks pplater, I did have a look...

 
 By: grumio : September 11th, 2011-00:54
at the link provided, but it almost raised more questions than it answered. No information on whether he started with an existing movement, and then modified it, for example, or whether he is using a truly novel mechanism. The article seems to show what l...

Found the original patent.

 
 By: grumio : September 11th, 2011-03:14
It's US number 6,457,856. It details a mechanism for using the expansion and contraction of a long, coiled, bi-metallic strip to wind a mainspring. The patent does not mention the rest of the movement. To quote a claim from the patent "This arrangement wi...

Speaking as someone who is inexperienced in such matters...

 
 By: pplater : September 11th, 2011-05:33
...the patent description and claims seem very detailed, and the ten accompanying sketches give a good sense of the arcane mechanics which devolve down to the finessing of the gearing. Moreover, it's clear that there was successful testing of the inventio...

Swiss lever

 
 By: ei8htohms : September 11th, 2011-10:49
And it appeared to be a standard base caliber, but I can't say which one. _john

It would be an achivement if an independent could legally..

 
 By: Ronald Held : September 11th, 2011-05:51
use that technology in one of their watches.

Legal conundrum

 
 By: dreamer8 : September 11th, 2011-15:58
Say , an independent were to use this patent, would any royalties due go to his appointed beneficiaries or if he is intestate, will royalties go to the state ? How would an independent negotiate to use patent ? It would be a waste to let this innovation g...

An excellent question...

 
 By: pplater : September 11th, 2011-17:30
...and one for our American legal confreres, given the inventor's nationality. Cheers, pplater.