Chapter 5 QUARTZ and SPRING DRIVES

Sep 26, 2011,16:51 PM
 

I think for these guys we can start with the specifications table. Following the same format as the mechanical watches, but with modifications as necessary, here's what I found:
                 

 Mechanical    SBGA011   GCLL997  SBGT027  SBGX039  SBGF009 
Winding AutomaticAutomatic QuartzQuartz Quartz
Movement 9S56-0AA05R77-0AA4 9F83-0AD09F61-0AA0 8J55-0010
Power Rsrv 72 hr72 hr 5 yr3 yr 3 yr
Timekeeping-1, +1
sec/day
-1, +1
sec/day
-5, +5
sec/year
-10, +10
sec/year
-10, +10
sec/year
Diameter 41.041.3 37.238.6 36.0
Thickness 12.5 13.610.611.0 9.3
Crown Dia. 5.9 locking5.74.7 locking5.2 locking 4.2
Material
& Weight
Titanium 70Steel 85Steel 60Steel 135Steel 95
Hand Color1 blue
3 silver
3 blue
1 silver
1 blue
2 silver
3 silver1 silver
2 silver/blk
Hand Shapesword
beveled
curved
pitched
dauphine
pitched
dauphine
pitched
modern
pitched
Crystalsapphire
domed
sapphire
dual curve
sapphire
dual curve
sapphire
dual curve
sapphire
flat
Date / DayDate 3NoDay Date at 3NoNo
Other DialPower 7
Snowflake
Moon 4
Power 7
Tuxedo stripes
Star at 6
Cross grid
Lion & GS
Sparkles
Indiciesapplied
triangular at
6,9,12
applied at
3,6,9,12
applied

6,9,12
applied
double at
3,6,9,12
applied
numerals at
3,6,9,12
Minute
Marks
lines2 types of dots
chrome & blue
applied all
minutes
applied all
minutes
lines
Casebacksapphire
screw-in
sapphire
screw in
solid with
gold Lion
solidsolid
GS Lionetched in
sapphire
no Lionfaces crownfaces
crown
no Lion
Lugsdrilledscrewsdrilleddrilledsolid
Buckleflip lockdeployanttangflip lockflip lock
Bracelet 20 titanium
multi-segment
20 strap
8 holes
18 strap
8 holes
20 steel
multi-segment
18 steel
multi-segment


QUARTZ MOVEMENTS
Much of the following copy comes from the Grand Seiko site describing their quartz models. I'm including because QUARTZ and PuristS are not often combined in the same post, much less the same sentence. I get some flak from people for having included a few quartz watches in my collection - the GS models, another Japanese model called The Citizen Chronomaster, the Breitling Aerospace, and the Rolex OysterQuartz.

These are not your normal beater $9.95 digital quartz watches.

The Caliber 9F models look like a mechanical watch, because the hands extend right to the very edge of the dial - not possible in a normal quartz watch. Caliber 9F has greater torque and uses longer hands, thanks to a twin pulse motor that delivers more power with a three year battery life.

A quartz oscillator vibrates 32,768 times a second, but this frequency may be affected by environmental and temperature changes. Stable oscillation is the key to the accuracy of a quartz watch. Each Grand Seiko quartz crystal is chosen and tested individually for a three month long aging process.

To ensure the minimum accuracy of one second a day required by the Grand Seiko standard, Quartz caliber 9F automatically detects temperature variations 540 times a day (every 160 seconds) and compensates for these variations so as to maintain accuracy.

In a mechanical watch, accuracy can be manually adjusted, but no normal quartz watch is adjustable. The Grand Seiko quartz caliber 9F has a “Pacing Switch” for fine adjustment. This allows high accuracy to be maintained even if the watch is worn in extreme temperatures.

Caliber 9F is not just extremely accurate, it presents time extremely accurately. The second hand in Caliber 9F stops exactly on the second markers, without any vibration. This quartz movement uses a device from the world of high-grade mechanical watchmaking to ensure precise motion - the addition of a regulatory wheel automatically adjusts the backlash between the gears.

The hour hand moves 24 times a day, the minute hand moves 1,440 times a day and the second hand 86,400 times. To ensure that the absolute precision of each of these 87,864 movements is not compromised by any interference of one hand by another, each axis of the three hands is separate and independent, not driving off another.

The rotor and gear train of caliber 9F are tightly sealed in a self-contained cabin. This guarantees the long lasting quality and precision of the movement by preventing dust entering when the case back is opened for battery replacement. This 'super sealed' cabin mechanism also increases the life of the lubricating oils that ensure the smooth operation of the gear train. Theoretically, additional lubrication is not needed for fifty years.

In most watches, the date change is gradual and takes several hours to complete. This imprecision was not good enough for the Caliber 9F design team, so they added a spring lever mechanism which causes the date to change instantaneously in just 1 / 2,000th of a second!

SPRING DRIVE
This model movement is entirely mechanical down to the escapement, which has been replaced by a "glide wheel", a tiny generator, and a balancing circuit that gently slows the glide wheel (should it go too fast) by magnetic repulsion. There are no batteries, capacitors or other user-replaceable parts in this circuits. Its merits can be debated elsewhere - all I can say is the movement is lovely and the smoothly gliding second hand is unlike either a conventional second hand or the tic-toc of a few mechanical "dead seconds" movements or the quartz brigade.

I've had about 10 Spring Drives but kept only these.

Still more to come in another chapter!
This message has been edited by cazalea on 2014-10-19 06:07:07


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Gaggle of GSes

 
 By: cazalea : September 23rd, 2011-13:40
Can we have too many beautiful watches? So far (10 years along this path) I say no. Many of you have seen my SOTC (state of the collection) post in the past 2 years, and I read encouragement. And I was able to encourage some of you to justify your collect...  

Is it possible to have too many Grand Seikos ?

 
 By: grumio : September 23rd, 2011-17:59
I think you have conclusively answered that question, and the answer is no. No explanation is required as to why you collect these - the answer is all in your picture. I particularly like the combination of silver hour/minute hands, and blued sweep second... 

You are not nuts, you are enthusiastic.

 
 By: docsnov : September 23rd, 2011-20:06
I would like to hear how you ended up with all of these pieces. I have tried to not purchase any watch that looks similar to anything I already have. More specifically I want one example of all the brands I like before I double up. I don't think my watch ... 

You can't have too many GS'...

 
 By: KIH : September 23rd, 2011-20:55
.... there are still many out there to collect Congrats and well done and go for it! Ken

Maybe when you run out of funds? (nt)

 
 By: Ronald Held : September 24th, 2011-04:39
NT

No argument from me there :-) [nt]

 
 By: KIH : September 24th, 2011-04:51
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You have my full support.

 
 By: grigo : September 23rd, 2011-23:12
I find your collection very divers in fact. Best regards, George

Gota have them all

 
 By: bOcy : September 24th, 2011-00:24
Nice collection! I like the top 2nd from the right very much! Arabic numbers, dot markers, blued steel, exactly the type I like but its not on their website.

Supported encouragement. :)

 
 By: VMM : September 24th, 2011-04:12
Beautiful Seikos. Vte

What a nice gaggle!

 
 By: Zhege : September 24th, 2011-08:20
Always nice to see a focused selection of watches like this. Yup, they are different enough to all have a place. So how about the rest of your story with GSes

Ok, I'm working on the stor(ies)

 
 By: cazalea : September 24th, 2011-08:44
Stay tuned, I''ll be back tonight. And bOcy, that's most everyone's favorite. Known only as SBGW003. And I thank SteveG for my obsession with that one!...  

go for it!

 
 By: donizetti : September 24th, 2011-11:08
A great group that can only get even nicer! Best Andreas

I'm on . . .

 
 By: Dr No : September 24th, 2011-12:24
. . . pins and needles, Mike! Pray tell . . .

a gorgeous gaggle of GSs! [nt]

 
 By: playtime : September 24th, 2011-13:39
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Chapter 1 THE PREPARATION

 
 By: cazalea : September 24th, 2011-18:54
In Chapter 1 I will cover 2 things - how I got into Grand Seikos, and how I prepared for this post. STUMBLING ONTO GRAND SEIKOS I had only Swiss watches at the start, and a couple American pocket watches. My foray into good watches began with a very expen...  

I agree with Nico. You're a complete nut

 
 By: TdotBean : September 24th, 2011-19:42
You don't need more Grand Seiko, you need all Grand Seiko:-D LOL Eagerly await part 2 Best Tyler

your a tease with that Credor! [nt]

 
 By: playtime : September 27th, 2011-08:12
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Amazing article Mike!

 
 By: sham1 : June 21st, 2019-21:40
You are so thorough and I salute you for it.

Chapter 2 THE FLEET

 
 By: cazalea : September 24th, 2011-20:50
I've been considering the best way to display the watch photos. Let's try it view by view, first. This is SBGM001, sports watch modeled after the Rolex Explorer, a 39 mm, automatic, steel, solid back, GMT hand, date set by rotating the hour hand (first po...  

What a collection!

 
 By: fernando : September 25th, 2011-17:12
And mostly white dial with the exception of the SBGM001. Purely for aesthetic reasons I suppose. This is quite some dedication or addiction towards GS watches and I applaud you for the enthusiasm and for sharing it with us. I only have one GS so far but m... 

white dial, yes for aesthetic reasons

 
 By: cazalea : September 26th, 2011-13:28
As I look across my entire collection, I have a more balanced mix of dark and light dials than the GS sub-group would indicate. I think there are more attractive light dial models with GS, and the few non-black dark dials (green, blue) are extremely rare....  

had a chance to handle the snowflake

 
 By: playtime : September 27th, 2011-08:15
a remarkable watch--but of course all of your GSs are remarkable

That last one did catch my eye

 
 By: sham1 : June 21st, 2019-21:45
when it was released especially with the blue second hand. On hindsight I should have got it but i am happy that I waited until now to join the Grand Seiko club even though I am a late entry

Chapter 3 OTHER VIEWS

 
 By: cazalea : September 24th, 2011-21:13
Here they come, in the same order as the last post. Let's look at the backs. The "explorer" with waterproofness and sturdiness its primary concern. No window. Drilled lugs. Hefty, protected crown. Snowflake decorated Spring Drive movement Credor different...  

We interrupt this program for . . .

 
 By: Dr No : September 25th, 2011-12:12
. . . a wrist shot - Mike's SBGW001 . . . . . . on my wrist. Terrific collection, Mike, and thanks very much for the effort in bringing it to us. Cordially, Art...  

Good stuff!

 
 By: Davo : September 25th, 2011-14:45
Looking forward to the next installment.

Await your 4th installment...

 
 By: Hororgasm : September 25th, 2011-15:45
Excellent thus far....and congrats on your ownership of these value propositions. Best, Horo

I really like what Credor did... [nt]

 
 By: playtime : September 27th, 2011-08:16
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Chapter 3A CROWN & CRYSTAL VIEWS

 
 By: cazalea : September 28th, 2011-11:32
These got uploaded but due to operator error, were not visible in the previous file. I hereby present the side views of all the Grand Seikos, in order matching the previous (and subsequent) stories. 01 SBGM001 explorer is big and bulky and thick and heavy...  

The movement of my SBGW231

 
 By: sham1 : June 21st, 2019-21:48
...  

Chapter 4 ONE MORE and MECHANICAL MOVEMENT SPECS

 
 By: cazalea : September 25th, 2011-18:20
Hi Gents, Thanks for bearing with me - it's been a busy weekend and may have bit off more than I could chew on my GS report. Remember that so far I am promising to show you all the Grand Seikos. Alas! Last night I realized I left one off of the list. How ...  

Enjoyed your 4 parts very much

 
 By: dreamer8 : September 26th, 2011-04:07
I am learning and have newfound appreciation of these GS Seikos. Cheers,dreamer

SPLENDID write-up, thanks so much and

 
 By: SteveG : September 26th, 2011-04:07
one consideration, I think the hands of the 003 may be curved: Love the new homage watch, BTW!...  

Both Curved and Flat, if you know what I mean

 
 By: cazalea : September 26th, 2011-09:40
Thanks Steve Yes, indeed they are curved to the tips, and curved over the top surface. I tried the word flat to distinguish them from the other two styles, as they are neither split in the center or knife-edge beveled on the edges. Words certainly fail to...  

thx for the table [nt]

 
 By: playtime : September 27th, 2011-08:18
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Thank you Mike for taking the trouble and time

 
 By: sham1 : June 21st, 2019-21:55
to tabulate that informative table. Interesting results.

Great report. Enjoy all of them! [nt]

 
 By: Ginger : September 25th, 2011-23:20
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Chapter 5 QUARTZ and SPRING DRIVES

 
 By: cazalea : September 26th, 2011-16:51
I think for these guys we can start with the specifications table. Following the same format as the mechanical watches, but with modifications as necessary, here's what I found: Mechanical SBGA011 GCLL997 SBGT027 SBGX039 SBGF009 Winding Automatic Automati... 

PuristS and Quartz

 
 By: MTF : September 26th, 2011-18:46
cazalea, You wrote: "I'm including because QUARTZ and PuristS are not often combined in the same post, much less the same sentence. I get some flak from people for having included a few quartz watches in my collection....." I want to explicitly clarify Pu... 

Thanks Melvyn

 
 By: cazalea : September 26th, 2011-20:02
I appreciate the vote of confidence. PuristS moderators especially have never been ones to scoff. Cheers Mike

It is quite interesting

 
 By: sham1 : June 21st, 2019-21:59
that a steel watch can weigh less than a titanium watch. Personally do you prefer the spring drive or mechanical movement in a Grand Seiko? I know the spring drive watches have amazing accuracy and a lovely second hand that glides.

Chapter 6 WRIST SHOTS

 
 By: cazalea : September 26th, 2011-19:24
I'll finish this series with one more post containing some analysis and reflection on what I've discovered, and I'm interested in your analysis too. Cazalea...  

great wrist shots! [nt]

 
 By: playtime : September 27th, 2011-08:20
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Chapter 7 THE CONCLUSIONS

 
 By: cazalea : September 26th, 2011-21:00
Hi PuristS, Thanks for your patience as I have struggled to make sense of my Grand Seiko collection. I know you have patiently endured such trials before, as I've found several of my posts (thanks for the help with the first series, Art!) on the subject b...  

thx for the writeup!

 
 By: playtime : September 27th, 2011-08:23
we rarely have the chance to compare models J

A round of applause . . .

 
 By: Dr No : September 27th, 2011-11:42
. . . for your efforts, Mike. I "pinned" this thread a few days ago to keep it in the forefront of the forum because it is a significant contribution. Deeply impressed, Art

Awesome post and collection ;)

 
 By: sharkfinDave : September 27th, 2011-20:54
Wow, fantastic write up. Congrats on such a well focused and beautiful GS collection. I love them all. But stand outs for me would be, the popular Snow Flake, SBGM001, and I must get myself the SBGW003. Great pics and detailed info and insight. Never too ... 

Magnificent post cazalea

 
 By: grumio : September 27th, 2011-21:10
Informative, lots of photos, interesting and considered writing - clearly you put a great deal of effort into it. It had certainly further increased my knowledge and interest in the modern Grand Seikos. Post like this are what make the Purists site so gre... 

A 'magnum opus', Mike; many thanks...

 
 By: pplater : September 27th, 2011-18:19
Although read with the Damascene eagerness of a recent GS convert, that review and analysis stands as the benchmark for those embarking on such an effort for any watch, collection or brand. We should be embarrassed that you make that kind of effort to our... 

Obviously you have read the book of Acts! [nt]

 
 By: cazalea : September 27th, 2011-20:06
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..and the others in the 'series'... ;-) [nt]

 
 By: pplater : September 27th, 2011-21:00
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Great effort...thanks. [nt]

 
 By: walfalah89 : September 27th, 2011-23:44
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