A peek into the mind of a tourbillon collector

Jul 03, 2011,03:11 AM
 

I posted images of a quartet of tourbillons some weeks ago. The four watches – a Jaeger-LeCoultre Gyrotourbillon 1 in platinum, Richard Mille RM002 Ti, FP Journe Tourbillon Souverain Boutique Edition in titanium and Patek Philippe Ref. 5101 Ten Days Tourbillon – belong to collector.

 



 

 

The owner of this quartet is a male collector in his early thirties based in South-East Asia. Married with two young children, he owns a retail business. Aside from watches cars are a minor passion. His garage has a Porsche 911 Turbo and a Range Rover Supercharged.

 

SJX: Why tourbillons?

 

Owner: For a tourbillon to work perfectly, its components need work to perfect harmony. Especially for my tourbillons, which are sort of special tourbillons. And I like being able to see this on a daily basis. Except for the Patek of course.

 



 

 

Business lacks the regularity of a good tourbillon. Sometimes it skips a beat! (laughs) In a way these watches give me the inspiration I need.  Retail is very competitive. All the travel, buying and meetings wear me down. It helps me having something that runs regularly on my wrist. 

 

SJX: Which is your favourite?

 

Owner: Either the Gyrotourbillon and the Patek. The JLC because it has complications rarely seen in one watch. While the Patek looks good and is subtle. (Editor’s note: The JLC Gyrotourbillon comprises multi-axis tourbilon, equation of time and perpetual calendar.)

 



 



 

 

SJX: As a tourbillon collector do you think they have been devalued by oversupply?

 

Owner: Somewhat, although I don't let that affect my liking for them. This is like what Porsche had done. I thought they lost a bit of credibility when they released the Cayenne and now the Panamera. A four door Porsche is too much of a deviation from what attracted me to the brand in the first place. But that doesn’t affect the intrinsic qualities or performance of the 911.

 



 

 

SJX: What tourbillon do you hope to add to your collection?

 

Owner: A Greubel-Forsey. I really like the Invention Pieces, which are amazing, both in terms of movement and design. The only thing stopping me is the very high prices.

 

SJX: Can you tell us about the rest of your collection?

 

Owner: I actually have few watches. I own a few vintage Rolex and a Reverso, while my wife has a couple of watches. Rolex, Chanel, that sort. My favourite is my Double Red Sea-Dweller. Wearing it on a NATO strap is really fun. But tourbillons are the only complications I own.

 

SJX: Your collection is heavily weighted in favour of tourbillons. Some of the tourbillons you have cost as much as perpetual calendars, minute repeaters. Do you see yourself buying other complications?

 

Owner: Yes. I’m actually considering seriously a Patek 5016 [minute repeater, perpetual calendar and tourbillon] before they get discontinued. But like the Greubel-Forsey it’s in a totally different price range from what I have. But that has a tourbillon too, so I guess I really can’t get away from tourbillons!

 

SJX: Thank you for your time.

 



 



 



 

 

This message has been edited by SJX on 2011-07-03 03:30:35


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I find this collection very fascinating.

 
 By: foversta : July 3rd, 2011-03:27
Because the 4 Tourbillons are totally different. That's the reason why I I like it. Obviously a G&F Tourbillon would be a wonderful addition... I propose an alternative: what about an Histoire de Tourbillon from Harry Winston (to stay in the Complitime un... 

A reply from the owner

 
 By: SJX : July 3rd, 2011-03:33
"I find the HW way too big. If I were to get a tourbillon at that price level, I would definitely go for a GF. The Lange doesn't speak to me in terms of design. Mostly I find Lange watches too conservative and boring, except maybe for the Zeitwerk." - SJX... 

Thanks for the quick reply!

 
 By: foversta : July 3rd, 2011-05:10
It is obvious, both Histoire de Tourbillon are bulky: But the Lange 1 Tourbillon, especially in its F.A.Lange version, with the stop Tourbillon has a lot of charm for my taste: It will be interesting to know what will be his next acquisition! Fx...  

Wonderful collection.

 
 By: KIH : July 3rd, 2011-03:32
Wonderful taste, I say. Very nice ones. Thanks, SJX! Ken

great philosophy from this gentlemen

 
 By: Hororgasm : July 3rd, 2011-04:11
Focus on horological complication, and slowly buy way up to the best of its breed. I disagree with his prognosis of the Porsche Cayenne though. Its like saying JLC should not make the Gyrotourbillon since it doesn't go with its core DNA of Reversos and Me... 

Thoughts on cars

 
 By: SJX : July 3rd, 2011-06:09
"You might be right. My knowledge of cars is quite limited. The Porsche is actually my first 'fast' car. Before that I had 'normal' cars, until we had the second kid, then we got the Range Rover. It was sort of an impulse purchase for me. I liked the powe... 

Impressive collection

 
 By: Davo : July 3rd, 2011-05:25
Clearly a man with great taste in fine watches, and cars. Thanks for sharing.

quite a collection!

 
 By: playtime : July 3rd, 2011-05:35
I hope they give him the inspration that he needs J

Excellent quality collection

 
 By: ArthurSG : July 3rd, 2011-05:43
that seems to place much premium on what else, quality over quantity. For simpler less extravagent occasions, he has is SD and reverso. My congratulations to a much enlightened collection and owner. Any reason why he won;t consider a central or fusee chai... 

Fusee tourbillons

 
 By: SJX : July 3rd, 2011-06:07
"The two fusee tourbillon I have seen are Lange and Breguet, and neither appeals to me. The Haldimann central tourbillon looks interesting but I have never seen one in real life." - SJX

i have seen one at IGOTT2..

 
 By: FanFrancisco : July 3rd, 2011-09:15
... what i can say... it is truly stunning which is the one your eye will keep looking at it! stefan

Alternative

 
 By: 4Js : July 3rd, 2011-09:55
What about an h2 haldimann? That would provide a different look to this wonderful collection.

Another idea

 
 By: 4Js : July 3rd, 2011-09:58
I agree about the breguet fusee piece but the double tour billion is very beautiful. The engraving is also wonderful.

It was already great to see ...

 
 By: small-luxury-world : July 3rd, 2011-08:07
the impressive collection some weeks ago, but it is even better to get the thoughts behind. Thanks a lot to you SJX and to the owner! Oliver

beautiful collection...

 
 By: Slavik : July 3rd, 2011-09:47
Absolutely stunning collection, I must say the RM and the JLC are my favorites out of the four. -Slavik

Very nice quartet!

 
 By: aaronm : July 3rd, 2011-13:15
I'd say the next one should be something by Haldimann, it would provide sobriety in balance of the GF A

An interesting variety and mixture of Tourbillons.

 
 By: BluNotte : July 3rd, 2011-17:56
Have never owned one yet myself, but definitely keen to some day to wrap up my collection. I love the JLC in particular, missed out on that one. Continue to enjoy your collecton! Thanks for bringing this to us SJX! Stephen

Great taste!

 
 By: sidneyc : July 3rd, 2011-20:15
Thanks SJX for bringing such an awesome collection of tourbillons to us. The collector have great taste of high end watches! I particularly liked the Patek as I love the idea of tourbillons hidden in view.