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Rating of vintage watches in market
To the communiy: Triggered by looking at Zenith vintage watches recently, I was debating with myself if/how under-valued Zenith watches (especially El Primeros) are compared to others. So I tried to assess 'how under-valued'...leading to thinking about other brands.
Question to all of you who want to chime in, I would like to do a fast survey:
"How would you rate the value of different vintage brands relative to each other", on a scale of 0-10, with 0=totally undervalued, 10=totally overvalued, 5=fairly valued.
Again, I am not talking absolute values (as per Forum rules), just relative to each other.
Please rate on that scale of 0-10: (considering vintage only, I suggest 1940-1974 - i.e. pre-quartz, post-pocket watch)
- Zenith
- Movado
- Omega
- Universal
- Longines
- JLC
- Rolex
- Patek
- VC
- AP
Rating of vintage watches in market
To the communiy: Triggered by looking at Zenith vintage watches recently, I was debating with myself if/how under-valued Zenith watches (especially El Primeros) are compared to others. So I tried to assess 'how under-valued'...leading to thinking about ot...
You forgot some great ones, like Tissot and most of all, Lemania. ;)
Leroy, too... And what about Minerva? Blancpain? Tudor? It is impossible to answer to your question, for me. Why? Because some specific watches in each of these brands have more value watches from other : A Longines 13 ZN mushroom pushers, black dial is a...
+1, where do we stop?
We'll said Nico! Big differences within a make, within a model and even within a case reference, just I illustrate the 13ZN example... Then we have to take into account the condition of the watch... Where do we stop? Are Renault cars from 1940-70 cheaper ...
I must confess that I know almost nothing about the Citroen and Renault prod from these
Years, but I get your idea very well. ;) Yes, too many factors, détails, to make a solid statement. But we can already say that there is a serious life outside the usual suspects ( Patek / Rolex / Panerai ( Vintage ) / and so on ), and that the outsiders ...
Your last remark..
Just my thoughts! You already said enough when mentioning Tissot & Lemania... ;-)
i'll play
- Zenith - 6. i think the more average vintage pieces are elevated by the excellent chronographs and the 135. - Movado - 4. very good quality. vintage collectors don't seem to love them enough. - Omega - 7. although it is a brand i love, the current price...
I certainly can't argue with you about Eterna.
A vintage Eterna is always a pleasure. I can't comment on all the brands proposed by RDL, but I have a few comments, each of which illustrates the difficulty of making this type of evaluation: 1. In the top tier, AP and Vacheron are very good values compa...
great points MKVC
Very good points. Fully agree on Rolex, although most say over-valued (see my rating below), I also think one has to see Rolex differently. As an investment which so far has never disappointed. So, 'the market' is getting it right then. But, still, for my...
well
i wouldn't say that vintage IWC are given away. but again, i am working in a realm that most posters here would consider bottom feeding. i have purchased some very beautiful vintage watches. they are true manufacture movements that represent excellent hor...
here my take
First, thanks for playing Eterna-Fan and understanding the spirit of my question. Obviously, such a question is always 'too general' because ultimately you have to go to the level of an individual watch to assess it's value (condition etc.). But, again ,t...
variations within brands
i enjoy this sort of discussion. i realize its futility, but as a admirer of all levels of quality and prestige, it gives me a rare opportunity to engage in this wonderful community. some responses to a few of your comments: 1. Zenith - 4 for El Primeros,...
Good points
Eterna Fan, interesting points! I also enjoy this discussion and also prefer it to simply posting watch photos. You have made me rethink: I have a extensive Zenith Cal 135 collection but bought most many years ago at much lower price levels. So my view mi...
I can't believe I missed this thread . . .
. . . until just now. :-) This is the sort of discussion we should be having more often. Thanks very much, R, for initiating it. As for my purely subjective opinion, the two manufacturers whose vintage products are trading for substantially a different am...
good points Art!
Art, apologies for not responding earlier and thanks a lot for chiming in! BTW: I always enjoy your insightful posts in the different threads here in this great forum. I appreciate your thoughts and find your points very valid. Especially as a chronometer...
IWC
Art, can yo explain a bit more your IWC experience? Was it a problem to find spare parts? I do like the 666/866 Ingenieurs, and a couple of 854x movement models.
Only with . . .
. . . clenched teeth! The short version of the long story is that I acquired a '50 IWC cal 89 from a reputable source who acknowledged the watch needed servicing, and priced it accordingly. The first watchmaker found a problem with the seconds pinion, but...
maintenance
i think this the pivotal point behind vintage collecting now. for instance, in my small, northern california town, there used to be a handful of watch repairmen. now, there are only two- and both have issues that make them less than attractive opitions. i...
