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Review of the Grand Seiko GMT SBGM003

By: SJX (registered) Saturday, March 15th, 2008 - Photo Nav: View All 14 photo(s)

The Grand Seiko GMT SBGM003

By Su JiaXian

 

I first encountered this watch several years ago when a notable personality on this website acquired one; he posted some excellent photos of the watch which caught my attention. Back then the Grand Seiko line was not available outside of Japan so I had to wait till Seiko finally decided to market the Grand Seiko range in Asia.

 

That finally happened in 2005. Seeing the watch in person at the Seiko showroom sealed the deal - I had to get one. But the Grand Seiko line costs 25% more expensive outside of Japan, so I decided to wait for the chance to get one in Japan. Other watches got in the way but this watch always remained at the back of my mind. Later last year, the day of reckoning arrived when a good friend told me he was going to holiday in Japan - I had to write out a cheque when he returned.

 

 

I’ve worn this watch for several months now but I have yet to tire of it. Despite its conservative, almost staid, design, it is a beautiful watch. As with all other Grand Seiko models, this watch has lots of shiny bits. Nearly all the metal parts of the face are bevelled and polished, the hour markers and hands are themselves miniature works of art.

 

 

 

Even under a loupe - or a 100mm macro lens for that matter - the finish on the markers and hands is immaculate, all edges are perfectly sharp. The 24-hour hand, blued by hand over a flame, is a beautiful deep blue that complements the rest of the dial. Attention to detail extends to even the frame around the date window. That displays two different finishes, the outer rim is polished while the inner portion is frosted.

 

 

Worthy of mention is the seconds hand, which is ovoid in cross-sectional shape rather than flat. The seconds hand curves down towards the dial at the minute markers to prevent parallax error; what is interesting is the way that curve is created - a craftsman uses a rolling pin like device to form the curve for each seconds hand.

 

 

Quality is also top notch in the dial itself. It displays a perfectly smooth ivory lacquer finish along with flawless printing of text and numbers. Some may find the five lines of text - “Seiko” and “GS” and “Grand Seiko” plus “automatic” and “GMT” - overpowering and redundant but I think the dial actually looks better with all that writing.

 

 

Like the dial and hands, the case is extremely well made. It is polished throughout and is bevelled on the edges of the lugs and bezel; the bezel actually has three surfaces. One of the highlights of this watch and other models in the Grand Seiko line is the domed sapphire crystal. It is reminiscent of the domed acrylic crystal found in vintage watches which is no doubt the intention of its creators, judging by the aesthetics of majority of the Grand Seiko line. Such crystals are expensive to manufacture and consequently are rarely used in watches of this price.

 

The diameter of this watch is 39.5mm, an ideal size, but it wears slightly larger for two reasons. One is the light coloured dial and relatively thin bezel, the other is that the lugs narrow towards the strap, meaning the inner width of the lugs is wider at the bezel than at the strap. That gives the impression that the dial and bezel are larger. The watch is 13.5mm thick, with about a millimetre or two due to the domed crystal.

 

On to the clasp - like the rest of the watch, it is very well finished; the steel keeper is brushed with polished bevelled edges and the “Grand Seiko” text on the buckle is well embossed. The design of the clasp is clever, it combines both a folding claps and a tang buckle, and the latter can be removed for the watch to be worn on a pin buckle. One drawback is that the steel keeper can rattle when the watch is worn.

 

 

 

Functionally, this watch works perfectly. It offers a dual time zone function that works like the classic Rolex GMT-Master II, a quick-set 12-hour hand that also changes the date forwards and backwards. Rotating the hour hand multiple times to reach the correct date can be tedious, but once set it is very convenient to use when travelling. Adjustment is also helped by the appropriately sized crown which is easy to grip. Waterproofing is to 30m, enough for daily activities and travelling.

 

 

Timekeeping is never an issue with Grand Seiko watches. Seiko emphasises the accuracy tests that all Grand Seiko watches must undergo in order to achieve the “Grand Seiko standard” and my particular watch runs about three to four seconds fast a day, excellent by any standard.

 

This model, the SBGM003, retails for JPY451,500 with tax, and JPY430,000 without. The tax-free retail is equivalent to US$4341 or so, which is tremendous value, especially since this can usually be purchased with a small discount from smaller shops though not the big department stores like Isetan or Takashimaya.

 

 

When I first received this watch I wrote this on the forum, “I rarely make absolute statements but in this case I am sure that the external components, dial, hands, case and crystal, are of the best quality and finish I have ever seen on a watch in this price range.” I suspect Seiko can achieve such quality due to its large production volume and sophisticated production technology, rather than using more labour. But that is beside the point. The fact that Seiko can create a watch like this at this price point is remarkable.

 

- SJX

 

Photo courtesy of Morioka Seiko Instruments Inc.  

This watch is also available with a display back and an engraved gold rotor from the factory store at the Morioka Seiko Instruments Inc. factory in Iwate Prefecture on Honshū Island where the Grand Seiko watches are made. This factory special edition has the model reference SBGM00C and retails for JPY472,500 with tax, a small premium over the regular production model. Unfortunately one has to buy it in person at the factory, there is no mail order.

This message has been edited by SJX on 2008-03-15 08:59:01

SJX, superb report on a lovely watch,

By: gmhutton (registered) Saturday, March 15th, 2008

i have those 2 letters imprinted on my brain and one day i'm sure i fullfill the ancient prophecy and purchase one. when my 'unusual' phase has passed me by it will be the first one too enter the fold. no offence to Rolex, but if i needed a GMT at around the same range the GS would be the one i'd go for.

lovely watches.

Graham



SJX, I couldn't agree more with your review on GS

By: ling5hk (registered) Saturday, March 15th, 2008

If this is a Patek, be prepared to pay 5 times more.  Like I said before, this is a "purists watch".

One disadvantage of Grand Seiko is that the Japanese are not proud to market it worldwide.  May be, they don't even produce enough GS to do that.

 

Regards

Ling

 

 

 



I am inspired

By: nutt (registered) Sunday, March 16th, 2008

Thinking of making a trip to Tokyo to get one. Does the date adjust backwards like the Rolex GMT?


Yes it does, the date can be set backwards. NT

By: SJX (registered) Sunday, March 16th, 2008

nt


Great review JX and as an owner myself I fully concur on your...

By: Horolographer (registered) Sunday, March 16th, 2008

personal views of the watch. Many who see the watch on my wrist do not believe that Seiko can make such a refined timepiece. Its just got to be seen to be appreciated. Its designed for those who want understatement and quality. I liked the SBGM003 so much that I also bought the SBGM001!

Cheers
Harry



Thank you, SJX

By: Dirk (registered) Sunday, March 16th, 2008

Makes for an interesting read - clearly a very well made watch.

I fall into the camp you hint at, wishing that most of the writing on the dial  were not there ...

Cheers, Dirk


You might be even more irked

By: SJX (registered) Sunday, March 16th, 2008

by the fact that there are three different fonts used on the dial. THREE!

smile

- SJX



the fonts ...

By: Dirk (registered) Sunday, March 16th, 2008

... indeed, might irk the Dirk ...

it is but a minor distraction, and somehow the "GS" font in particular makes this all the more Japanese

=)


"Irk the Dirk"

By: SJX (registered) Monday, March 17th, 2008

Now that could be a test for all designs - will it irk the Dirk? smile

- SJX



Thanks for a comprehensive report SJX...

By: Rob (registered) Sunday, March 16th, 2008


this could and most likely will be the tipping point towards me acquiring my first ever GS smile I can't wait to do so on soon. Thanks again for sharing. Must agree that it is quite a photogenic piece!

Thanks for the full review.

By: au7778 (registered) Sunday, March 16th, 2008

Now I can make up my mind to acquire this Japanese timepiece comfortablely. Thanks

My first post here and it is on a Seiko - Love the Seikos -

By: RichM-RI (registered) Monday, March 17th, 2008

Hello!

A great post - thank you for taking the time to do it!

I am a big Seiko fan - more so as of late. Last month I purchase the SBDX003 Seiko Prospek "Sumo" - 200m amazing watch. I bought it for just fun but I have to say - it rivals my old SMP 2531.80 (long since sold).

It is rather big but wears well do to the curved lugs - I only have a 6.50" wrist and have no issue whatsoever.

Then again, I do the majority of my posting on paneristi.com and have been wearing Panerai for over a year now smile

Next for Seiko I think is a MarineMaster for me - I like them that much.

Have a great day -

RichM

 



Rich,   go for the...

By: gmhutton (registered) Monday, March 17th, 2008

Rich,

 
go for the seiko Discus which seems to have been
adopted by a large number of the forum. i 'think' theres in excess of 30 owners
many of whom went to a lot of effort to get the watch to UK or US as its a
Japanese only issue. superb and unusual watch.

either that or save up for a GS. it seems you wont
regret it.

 
welcome to the forum, i've been on a few other
seiko forums, but purists is the most informative and the guys are very
technically knowledgeable.

 
Graham



Hi RichM - Welcome

By: SJX (registered) Monday, March 17th, 2008


I too have one of the Seiko Prospex divers, not the Sumo but the Samurai in titanium with the striking orange dial. Both watches offer tremendous value for money.

You won't regret the Marinemaster. It utilises the same base calibre as the Grand Seiko watches minus the decorative finish, so it is still a very fine and accurate movement. I reckon it's one of the best made diver's watches out there, especially at that price point.

- SJX

Thanks, SJX.

By: masterspiece (registered) Monday, March 17th, 2008


I too, own the SBGM003. Love the look, quality and color. I love light or cream colored dials and they way this watch is crafted, it is hard to beat. I walked into a Rolex retailer, looking at the YachtMaster in platinum and the sales guy exclaimed, "Is that a Grand Seiko!!???" He was totally in awe of it. I just smiled and said, "Well yes, it is. Go ahead and try it on." He was checking it out intently. I also own Patek but the GS has a very strong hold on me.

I travel to Japan once or twice a year so having the cool Blue 24-hour hand is great although, I have to admit, in low light, I sometimes mistake it for the hour hand. This watch gets a lot of wrist time.

If there is a fault to it, it would be to the packaging. The box it comes in is not quite up to the standard of the watch. The depth of the box and the pillow doesn't accommodate the watch at all. Need to keep it in another box more conducive to the care of the timepiece.

Other than that, I just love it. I also got it for a lot less than the list, which is always a plus.

Wear it well.

Bob

Do post some photos of your watch too! NT

By: SJX (registered) Tuesday, March 18th, 2008

nt

I'm a believer.

By: omdroparebop (registered) Tuesday, March 18th, 2008

Thanks very much for the report, and the wonderfulpictures! I just couldn't be a bigger fan of Grand Seiko.
I've yet to see one i didn't love.


by coincidence theres an interesting article on FHH about Seiko GS, Credor

By: gmhutton (registered) Wednesday, March 19th, 2008

and Spring Drive.

http://journal.hautehorlogerie.org/en/from-our-correspondents/tokyo/fine-watchmaking-in-japan.html

 

SJX, is the spring drive any more accurate than the conventional GS. the details i've read seems that it should be due to its electronic bits and pieces. due to these bits IYO does it make it a 'less pure' watch than a conventional GS.

i suppose i'm going to answer my own question here which is typical of me smile

none of us ever wear a watch for more than a few days at a time so its only as accurate as we set it when we put it on. if thats the case i see no reason for going for the spring drive over the pure auto GS.

your opinion on this would be good.

regards

Graham



The Spring Drive is more accurate

By: SJX (registered) Wednesday, March 19th, 2008

Its regulator spins at a much higher beat than a
mechanical, and it is regulated by a small circuit. I can't remember the exact
figure, but its monthly variation is significantly less than a
mechanical.

 
Something worth nothing is the movement of the seconds
hand in the Spring Drive watches is perfectly smooth to the eye, like
electric clocks and watches of old, because of the extremely high frequency of
the regulator.

 
- SJX


i can see the benefit...

By: gmhutton (registered) Thursday, March 20th, 2008

i can see the benefit of spring drive if its your
only watch, worn all the time, which is what its designed for, but i'm
wondering whether i would appreciate the benefit as it will be one of several
watches and for the length of time i'd wear it a 15 sec +/- would be more than
acceptable.

at the moment my purists mind is coming down in
favour of a fully mechanical GS for its build quality.

after all i have a few accutrons which do the full
sweep second thing and keep perfect time when worn, but i never wear
them.

i have found a black dialled version of yours, but
as usual dont have the cashflow :(