That remains to be seen but you are on the right track

Aug 06, 2014,02:38 AM
 

with your thinking.  Just as we have atomic clocks and such for reference time keeping, we need to find out what the true or reference value of a second/minute/hour is.   If one pays $250,000 for a Patek grand complication (with a tourbillon) and it loses 5 seconds a day, 35 seconds a week, 140 seconds every 4 weeks, 1820 seconds in 52 weeks ( basically 30 minutes ), the conclusion is one is paying $8333.33 for each minute lost per year.

If the Sistem 51 is losing 5 seconds a day at $150 the wearer is paying $5 for each minute lost per year.

A lost second on the Patek watch is 1666 times more expensive than a second lost on the Sistem 51.

One conclusion could be that making up for lost time is much more costly to the Patek wearer than the Sistem 51 wearer.

I know we are not taking into account factors such as materials, production method, finishing, personal taste, etc., but could we conclude the Sistem 51 is the better choice?  Should Patek be concerned with sales in the last 1/2 of 2014?  Will collectors and aficionados interested in the grandest of complications turn to the Sistem 51 instead?

We will continue to collect more data.......

Stewart 

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Initial comparisons between 2 Sistem 51s time keeping accuracy

 
 By: docsnov : August 5th, 2014-18:29
Be assured that testing is being done under the strictest of conditions in accordance to the Kew observatory, COSC, and whatever the Germans call their chronometer test facility in Glashutte. I welcome anyone who would like to send their watches to Knoxvi...  

Need luck ...

 
 By: Kong : August 5th, 2014-19:56
Heard from several friends with mixed results too. Mine is alright till now, +3 to +6 per day comparing to atomic clock ref. You can use as a reference if you can set both watches correctly :-) Better to time them if both have enough power ie. after sett... 

So on a cost-adjusted basis it's (dollar for dollar) more accurate than a Patek tourbillon? (",)

 
 By: secretlife : August 6th, 2014-00:06
This message has been edited by secretlife on 2014-08-06 00:08:25

That remains to be seen but you are on the right track

 
 By: docsnov : August 6th, 2014-02:38
with your thinking. Just as we have atomic clocks and such for reference time keeping, we need to find out what the true or reference value of a second/minute/hour is. If one pays $250,000 for a Patek grand complication (with a tourbillon) and it loses 5 ... 

Clearly, the timing discrepancy is due to . . .

 
 By: Dr No : August 6th, 2014-09:17
. . . phase shift in the visible color spectrum reflected onto the crystal from the case. The Helmholtz-Doppler alcohol-by-volume test is predicated upon this phenomenon. First observed by Prof von Finestein . . . . . . and honored by the Nobel Committee.... 

Thank you for clearing that up

 
 By: docsnov : August 6th, 2014-10:13
I think as we delve into this more deeply a large number of horological questions may be answered. Perhaps even some metaphysical answers will be revealed as well. I do need to report that our initial timing test has ended due to the fact that my wife wan... 

Nice post!

 
 By: patrick_y : August 9th, 2014-04:59
Always an amazing contrast with how accurate some watches are.