Fantastic post dear Baron! Makes for an interesting reading...

Jun 03, 2013,05:17 AM
 

... and a great reference guide!

I appreciate all the work which you took to gather all this material, photos, and info! GREAT!

Thank you so much and receive my best cordial regards, Abel.


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Rolex 1665 - The Rail Dial

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : December 25th, 2018-13:10
The 1665 Double Red Sea-Dweller (DRSD) has a very broad following amongst vintage Rolex collectors. There are entire websites devoted to the history, details and intricacies of this great watch. Produced for a decade (1967-77) with a multiple of dial and ...  

Insane???

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 3rd, 2013-00:02
Uhm...... I guess you are right!

LOL !

 
 By: flamenco : June 3rd, 2013-00:09
Like Ed, I can never keep track as well ... Although it makes for an interesting read. Not to mention the passion exuded by Rolex collectors ! The question is, who discovers this "differences" and how does this get proliferated !?!

Very informative

 
 By: Aless156 : June 3rd, 2013-00:10
Thanks for the analysis. I love the white 1665.

A superb reference post, my friend.

 
 By: amanico : June 3rd, 2013-00:11
I didn't know all these details about the Great Whit, or about the SD RD ( Rail Dial ). It is great to have all these details in the same article, especially for those who are hunting this watch. A superb reference post, Baron. Bravo. Nicolas.

Thanks Nicolas

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 3rd, 2013-00:14
I think what is interesting is finding out new or at least different angles to the watch. I love the Stern link to the Comex Rail Dial for example.....and the Sea-Dweller name appearing uniquely.....these things make the watch history richer and a big par... 

Wow great review !

 
 By: DrStrong : June 3rd, 2013-00:23
thanks a lot for sharing your research about this fascinating watch

Great timing!

 
 By: vernon : June 3rd, 2013-01:15
Thanks for a great and informative article. I've also been swayed by the charms of the Rail Dial - I don't know what it is about the layout but it just looks right to me. A double red is probably out of my reach but a nice Rail would do me just fine and t... 

Hi Vernon...

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 3rd, 2013-01:27
I really don't think you will be disappointed with any of the Great Whites.......good hunting

Bravo Baron!

 
 By: ESE 2A : June 3rd, 2013-01:39
Very nice topic!!! If i could correct something, i would say about the rail dial, that the range is 5.7-5.8 (but you can find it even on 6.2) Ciao ;)

Yes, i have seen that it can come in 6.2....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 3rd, 2013-01:50
......but if i am honest, i am only truly comfortable in a 5.70X - 5.99Xm range. I am not saying you are wrong as who knows for sure how Rolex fitted their dials with consistency....but I would say I would much prefer my Rail Dial fo fall between 5.7-6.0m... 

the widely accepted range ...

 
 By: marcello pisani : September 8th, 2014-06:14
for rail ( mk2 ) dial is 5.7 - 6.2.

Did you ever hear about 500 pieces only, Marcello?

 
 By: amanico : September 8th, 2014-06:17
Well, by " hear ", I mean facts. ;) Best, Amico. Nicolas

I can just give my opinion ...

 
 By: marcello pisani : September 8th, 2014-07:13
and not " facts " as the Lake has allways been quite contrary to give production numbers. we could reason in this way considering that : 1) in the 5.7 - 6.2 range there are 8 batches of 1665 ; 2) the elapsed time is around 24 months ; 3) in the same case ... 

a lot less Rails than i had expected

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : September 8th, 2014-08:39

well at that time ....

 
 By: marcello pisani : September 8th, 2014-09:39
1665 was not really a commercial success ..... a really specialized watch .... with an higher price than 1680/5513 ... made in a very very lower number than the damned cosmographs screw-down pushers. still underestimated also in the " standard version " .... 

I waited for ages to find mine....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : September 8th, 2014-09:44
......gladly managed to do so...B&P an added bonus. And today, I a "smug" Joe

LOL, yes, very wise!

 
 By: amanico : September 8th, 2014-11:11

Well Baron, I am flabergasted:) how one would....

 
 By: Sandgroper : June 3rd, 2013-01:39
discover that a hyphen between Sea and Dweller is shorter or longer, that the R of Oyster is directly placed under the base of the R of Rolex or otherwise is AMAZING!! Almost like looking for a needle in a haystack. I guess that MUST be the definition of ... 

Hey Francois...

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 3rd, 2013-01:47
.....the Single Red is the one that you are talking about? Well, its not that they produced only one.....i think it may be 2 or so....but these watches were prototypes. Rolex wanted to develop a saturation diving watch so produced a number of prototypes t... 

No no, I am talking about the Great White, the one...

 
 By: Sandgroper : June 3rd, 2013-02:30
you are describing, you write " The Mk1 dial came on a serial number in the 5.2-5.7m range but also occasionally from 5.9-6.1m" is the "m" for million? Cheers Francois

ah yes....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 3rd, 2013-02:45
so 5200000....5.2m yes

Hmmmm! Thank you :)

 
 By: Sandgroper : June 3rd, 2013-03:02
Cheers, Francois

Thanks Mod...

 
 By: gensiulia : June 3rd, 2013-01:46
...a cornerstone for a lover of the most fascinating Rolex ref. ave, chris

Cheers Ken

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 3rd, 2013-03:07
Its good to give this reference its correct status!

Fantastic post dear Baron! Makes for an interesting reading...

 
 By: Subexplorer : June 3rd, 2013-05:17
... and a great reference guide! I appreciate all the work which you took to gather all this material, photos, and info! GREAT! Thank you so much and receive my best cordial regards, Abel.

Well....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 3rd, 2013-05:41
.....it is quite easy to take pictures of a watch I love owning. I am pleased you like it....

Amazing reference post, and great close ups and markers to...

 
 By: DivingT : June 3rd, 2013-12:39
....illustrate the very subtle, but key differences. I love these types of post. Fantastic, well done Joe. Thanks for sharing. Cheers Tony

Great and detailed report

 
 By: Bill : June 3rd, 2013-20:47
It is clear you have a soft spot for this model. Best Bill

a small one [nt]

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 4th, 2013-00:35

A very interesting and informative post!

 
 By: fernando : June 4th, 2013-06:41
Just one question: Will it still be called a great white if all the indices and hands have turned a dark yellow colour. :) Just happened to see one in such a condition. cheers fernando

Excellent article

 
 By: cmclee : June 4th, 2013-06:57
probably the most complete by far.. thanks for sharing ! here's my MK4. ...  

great write up

 
 By: Ryan5446 : June 4th, 2013-10:19
thanks ! Here is my humble contribution ...  

I love that type of humility!!!

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 4th, 2013-10:25
A killer duo.....quite perfect

Humble, humble... Would you consider an humble trade between your humble watches

 
 By: amanico : June 4th, 2013-11:04
And my humble ones? :) :) :) SUPERB, Steven... Best, my friend. Nicolas

hell yes! [nt]

 
 By: gensiulia : June 4th, 2013-12:28

Thank you for the education, Baron!

 
 By: blomman Mr Blue : June 5th, 2013-00:13
And congrats to a great watch! :) Best, my friend Blomman

brilliant sunday!

 
 By: gensiulia : June 9th, 2013-06:51
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Amazing scholarship, Baron...

 
 By: descartes1 : September 10th, 2014-07:19
It is this sort of analysis that makes vintage collecting so interesting IMO. While I do love new/newer models too, any person can walk into a retail store and buy what's in the case. It is far more interesting to look at collecting with something other t... 

Great report

 
 By: FrancisV : September 8th, 2014-06:57
Thank you for your dedication and time in producing such an in depth review. Kind regards

So glad I miseed that article first time around

 
 By: Ares501 - Mr Green : December 25th, 2018-14:21
What a Xmas night treat reading this was! Superb post by all means.... learned so much about SD history. Cheers D

A beauty!!! [nt]

 
 By: amanico : December 25th, 2018-23:08

Great write up-- thanks--- my 5.7 Rail.

 
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