My thoughts on the F.P.Journe Chronomètre Optimum

Oct 08, 2012,15:03 PM
 

The Optimum has been whispered about for some years: a super-chronometer that brings together many of Journe’s design and engineering ideas into one watch. And now it is finally unveiled [click here]. And as usual it is a polarising watch, but one which I believe is the most important F.P.Journe timepiece since the Centigraphe Souverain.

Chronometry has always been a central driving factor in F.P.Journe watches. The Chronomètre Souverain achieved this in a fairly standard manner with two large mainspring barrels in parallel and a free sprung balance. But Journe often went about maximising chronometric performance in unconventional ways – a twin escapement using the resonance phenomenon in the Chronomètre a Resonance and the first remontoir in a wristwatch in the Tourbillon Souverain (TS).

So early on we had some clues to what might be in the Optimum – twin barrels, manual wind and a remontoir were clear choices, but given Mr Journe’s strong roots in traditional horology I wasn’t expecting a new escapement architecture. However Journe has reached back to the natural beat designs of A.L. Breguet and produced a direct impulse bi-axial escapement with modern materials (the escape wheels and arbors are in titanium) which do not require lubrication. This will presumably lead to greater stability over time (no aging of the oils with changes to performance) but we are yet to see if this translates into longer service intervals.


F.P.Journe press photo: platinum case and WG dial.

The remontoir, first seen in the TS, has been updated with a titanium spring. The long 70 hour power reserve (50 hours with isochronism) is very practical. 40mm is probably the perfect case size (while I like most Journe watches in 38mm with the thinner bezel, 40mm suits the DS and I think also the new CO), but given current trends, offering a 42 mm version covers most sizes across the Journe catalogue. We will have to wait to see both the 40mm and 42mm watches to decide which is aesthetically more balanced. And at 10.1mm thickness the proportions will again be perfectly elegant on the wrist. I also applaud the larger crown which should allow much easier and more comfortable winding of the CO; any Journe owner will know what I mean.

While not everyone buys into the Journe aesthetic – a post-modern design with historical references – the design of the Optimum is a further distillation of the ‘house style’ with some touches of magic. For those of us with aging eyes we now have a larger hour-minute dial. The spinning remontoir is again visible from the front of the watch and harks back to the original TS, superseded in 2004 by the Dead Seconds tourbillon. I don’t particularly like the use of the red arrow on the reserve de marche display. It is appropriate and looks great on the F.P.Journe sports watches, but on the Optimum I would have preferred the more sober RdM design we have on the Resonance and TS.



F.P.Journe press photo: RG case and RG dial.


Here is where the Journe magic really comes in for me: I expected a large dead seconds display on the front of the watch, the same size as the hour-minute dial. But instead what we get is a smaller ‘continuous’ seconds on the front (actually showing the 3Hz frequency of the escapement) and a larger dead seconds display on the rear (showing the 1Hz frequency of the remontoir) which is completely independent of the escapement. And the dead seconds runs counter clockwise! These dual but independent and unique seconds displays alone are quirky enough to make me love this watch.



F.P.Journe press teaser, brightened.

While a zero second reset such as we have in the Glashütte Original Senator Chronometer would have been a fantastic addition (or even a hacking seconds as an inferior alternative), Journe has stated many times that he doesn’t like mechanisms that stop the balance wheel and perturb timekeeping. Whether this is essential to you or you consider it a design fault I will leave that up to you. Personally I am happy to wind my DS so that the seconds are perfectly matched with atomic time and then watch how it tracks over the weeks that I wear it.




Photo credit: KIH Tokyo Boutique Optimum launch. Cropped and flipped.



Only the true Journe-o-philes will have read through these ramblings but if, like me, you appreciate the concepts, design and unique combinations of complications that F.P. Journe brings to his timepieces then I think you will love the Chronomètre Optimum as much as I do.

Very interested to hear both your emotional and intellectual responses to this watch.

Andrew



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I am still deliberating a emotional and intellectual response to the CO

 
 By: Hororgasm : October 8th, 2012-16:41
but i must confess a immediate financial response of annoyance at the price tag...a precise discussion of which is discouraged, if not disallowed in this august forum. :)- will ponder over next few days... best, Horo

You just have to pick your comparisons...

 
 By: aaronm : October 8th, 2012-17:38
Next to the AP ChronoAP, it's a bargain! ;) A

I, for one, agree

 
 By: aaronm : October 8th, 2012-17:35
I quite like the design. It reminds me of the Grand Sonnerie, but without the insane price. My only complaint will fall on entirely deaf ears, I miss the yellow/red dial in the platinum case A

But Aaron

 
 By: BluNotte : October 8th, 2012-17:41
The Pt case IS available with the rose gold dial. That combo is there, just not stated on the release. Hope this makes you feel better! Stephen

Indeed!

 
 By: aaronm : October 9th, 2012-09:56
it makes me feel both better and worse, since now I really need to start saving my pennies! A

Are yes - YG + Pt ...

 
 By: AndrewD : October 8th, 2012-23:27
... drool. It's the Journe signature colour combination, but forever associated in my mind with the 'early' brass movement phase to 2004. And that's as it should be I think. Classics in their own right. Unless perhaps F.P.Journe want to release a special ...  

I saw it on the launch event

 
 By: BluNotte : October 8th, 2012-17:58
Hey Mate, Trust all is well. I was there at the event as you know, and got to handle the RG version that Journe wore that day. I have to say for me personally i was fairly disappointed. After waiting for this masterpiece since i 1st read about it, i have ... 

Seconds

 
 By: AndrewD : October 8th, 2012-18:44
Hi Stephen, Thanks for all your comments. I know you are passionate about zero reset and/or hacking seconds, particularly on chronometers. It's a pity more watches don't provide this and I mentioned the GO in my comments, and of course ALS archieve this e... 

The watch is ok

 
 By: BluNotte : October 8th, 2012-22:28
Hi Andrew, Maybe compelling as you say, but i dont know, the seconds issue really bugs at me. Especially when this watch has not one but 2 seconds hand counting out the SAME seconds. Double problems? As for the way you synchro your DS, yes that is the way... 

Completely independent seconds ...

 
 By: AndrewD : October 8th, 2012-23:12
... not the SAME seconds. :-) But I know what you mean. The 'continuous' (front) and dead second (rear) displays are indeed 'locked' together, just showing seconds from different parts of the watch - the escapement and the remontoir. Fun. Andrew

I fully agree with you..

 
 By: moc : October 10th, 2012-01:43
The non-hcking feature is hard to understand in a "chronometer".You explained it so well with the ruler example.... How come the hacking feature(many very cheap movement have it)is disregarded by some huge brands....all watches aimed to accuracy should ha... 

More of an emotional hit for me, and of less interest from...

 
 By: dxboon : October 8th, 2012-23:12
...an intellectual standpoint. I actually like the watch quite a bit. The one miscue for me is the power reserve. While it is very much in keeping with the Journe look, it kind of crowds the dial for me. Like you, I am tickled to death with the dead secon... 

'Teaser'

 
 By: AndrewD : October 9th, 2012-14:31
When I first saw the 'teaser' image a few weeks ago I thought that they had 'photoshopped' the dead seconds display onto the rear of the watch. So I found it doubly amusing that it really is there on the rear, superimposed across the remontoir. Thanks for...  

One non emotional and non intellectual question :)

 
 By: Ares501 - Mr Green : October 9th, 2012-00:35
Do I smell Optimum Opium on your skin (or better wrist) dear Andrew? Sincerely Damjan

The escapement seems to be like Breguet's...

 
 By: aditya : October 9th, 2012-02:20
.... 'echappement naturel' where one escape wheel drives the other. George Daniels in 'watchmaking' writes that the benefits of eliminating oil from the impulse areas are nullified by the increased friction (& backlash) of one more escape wheel. His s... 

Performance is what counts for me

 
 By: amerix : October 9th, 2012-03:17
That must translate into a significant improvement in time-keeping ability, say double the accuracy over a CS or a CB which are already at (or close to) the top of my list for that special quality. Will it live up to its promise and our expectations? The ... 

Count me a Journe-o-phile, Andrew. :-)

 
 By: CaliforniaJed : October 9th, 2012-10:34
great post. Best, CaliforniaJed

THE fascinating aspect for me...

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : October 9th, 2012-11:38
is that Journe managed to realise the interesting escapement by using new (in the context of the escapement) materials that are still subject to hand-operated production and hand-finishing (i.e. titanium). There is none of the 'common' new materials which... 

Doubts ...

 
 By: moc : October 10th, 2012-01:35
dear Andrew, as you we all know here,we all have our weakness and champions in the futile world of watch collecting. I ve been pondering about this CO for a couple of days,trying not to get my feelings about FPJ as a brand into my judgement,a constant mix... 

Fully second your critics of the design ...

 
 By: Marcus Hanke : October 10th, 2012-05:49
... and would even add my own critical remark regarding the watch's rear side: the metal ring of the caseback is completely filled with text, without any informational content, since everything is engraved on the movement as well. There should be an inter... 

I agree 100% with your points

 
 By: nilomis : October 10th, 2012-05:54
Marcus, I have nothing to add, after your considerations. Cheers, Nilo

Chronometers

 
 By: AndrewD : October 10th, 2012-14:48
Thanks Marcus, I think we need to spin off a new thread and discussion on chronometer history, evolution and definitions. Clearly what we expect today is a little different what was achieved from John Harrison onwards. Your other comments about redundant ... 

Uhm,that was something I noticed bur forgot to mention Marcus

 
 By: moc : October 10th, 2012-22:41
yes the back side bares even more text and indeed a double bubble text,I wonder if its Mr Journe aestetic rule or the design department I must admit they really went over board with text with this watch(3 times the motto is way more than required....). I... 

I love your last statement Mo!

 
 By: BluNotte : October 10th, 2012-22:53
Because it totally reflects what i think about this issue myself too! Tschuss Stephen

AFAIK, the Luminor Base were not certified Chronometers.

 
 By: amanico : October 10th, 2012-23:23
The Luminor were certified Chronometers ONLY when they were also called Marina, which meant that they had the small seconds.... But I agree with you that all the choronometers didn't come with a hacking seconds, yes. See the Vintage Rolex till... The Earl... 

Excellent discussion, Mo.

 
 By: AndrewD : October 10th, 2012-15:09
You hone in on the two contentious aspects of the Optimum. The RdM is also my least favourite part of the design, but it is mainly that little red downward accent. It may be better in real life (Journe's often are, IMO) but at this point I don't think it ... 

Cool stuff Andrew..

 
 By: moc : October 10th, 2012-22:47
I appreciate Journe consistency in his chronometers ,but something extra in this one (as it is optimum,with a price that goes with it..)could have been introduced in that department. You can hack and reset the second hand without stopping the escapement(J... 

Finally some one is singing the same song!

 
 By: BluNotte : October 10th, 2012-17:41
Dear Mo, I have read your comments, and boy do i have to say im smiling now! ;) As Andrew has pointed out we need to really start another topic discussion on the Chronometer on it's own. But as Marcus has stated, the original meaning of the Chronometer wa... 

Not only that Stephen(one more consideration)

 
 By: moc : October 10th, 2012-23:12
Using your ruler example ,I say that IF I want to start counting from 2 instead from 0,it has to be my own decision,not somebody else,IF I like it that way ,well thats the way I want it. I explain my concept better:personally with a chronometer I would se... 

I think the "hacking discussion" would make a great topic for our ...

 
 By: Marcus Hanke : October 11th, 2012-01:22
... technical forum WatchTec, since it is of general interest. I agree that everything that stops the balance is considered "bad" for the accuracy, including the conventional hacking mechanisms. However, as Glashütte Original demonstrated in its well-made... 

Also cal381 from Jlc does the same

 
 By: moc : October 11th, 2012-01:45
Plus zero reset.... Those are features that I d love to see on any chronometer. Mo +1 on the thread... Could be an interesting one

I gotcha way past clear my friend

 
 By: BluNotte : October 11th, 2012-05:29
Evening Mo, Well i think at the end of the day, all i can say is that i'm very much like you. Only thing is that MY standard is the international Atomic time, and i MUST have a running watch to be able to set to it. No wonder i love my Langes so much. The... 

I really like the looks and the concept of it

 
 By: donizetti : October 10th, 2012-11:49
for me it will also be important how good the timekeeping really is. While my Journes have kept very good times they have not been "out of this world" in this regard (for example my CS, back from service, is at +1). If Journe calls it the Chronometre Opti... 

Some images

 
 By: Sean : October 10th, 2012-21:26
Interesting discussion ... but I thought I'd balance this out with some photos (platinum 42mm). ...  

The Hong Kong launch party?

 
 By: AndrewD : October 11th, 2012-00:28
Thanks for the great 'live' pictures, Sean. Very helpful. Is it only the 42mm that is circulating? Did you get to the HK launch party? Any personal thoughts on the Optimum? Appreciated. Andrew

True to its name

 
 By: Sean : October 13th, 2012-03:45
Hi Andrew, I'm afraid I arrived a little late to the launch party, but I was able to have a look at the rose gold version as well, in both sizes. The consensus at the party is that the 40mm is very nice, but the 42mm was the "crowd favorite." I think it's... 

the dead seconds hand on the back just seems silly

 
 By: ei8htohms : October 13th, 2012-06:47
Hello Andrew, Mr. Journe's creations often confound me, sometimes delight me and usually engage me in some way, and this one does as well. Double wheel escapement. Cool. Not obviously different from Voutilainen's implementation, both of which presumably s...